tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8755992538490694989.post2184930194634576108..comments2023-08-05T08:50:00.305-05:00Comments on Green Nuclear Butterfly Blog: Understanding the Lie Of The Nuclear CycleRoyce Penstingerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15097783614648808652noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8755992538490694989.post-81743060486874840422007-06-20T12:13:00.000-05:002007-06-20T12:13:00.000-05:00Dear Vargas:Am always amused here when youngsters ...Dear Vargas:<BR/><BR/>Am always amused here when youngsters still naive and wet behind their ears want to leap into the fray and lecture to their elders...so cute!<BR/><BR/>Even more humorous, is your siting NEI (Nuclear Energy Institute) not once but twice in your response, hoping that most who read your childish gibberish are not going to know that the NEI is the lobby group for the entire nuclear industry...care to discuss the over $237 Million they have given to politicians, or their full funding of Patrick Moore's propaganda machine, CASEnergy. Or perhaps we can hear you wax poetic about the $8 million dollar PR firm contract just for last year that the NEI signed with the same firm that represented Exxon after they ruined the environment.<BR/><BR/>As to nuclear workers dropping like flies...if none of them are dying from working around nuclear, how come it took and act of Congress to force the DOE to give them the benefits and medical help they need...or did you happen to miss the newspaper article last week dealing with 3.000 of these people in just one community?<BR/><BR/>Get a clue, the government, the nuclear industry, even NEI have spent billions to thwart any and all efforts at the truth coming out, all in the name of National interests, host communities be damned.Royce Penstingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15097783614648808652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8755992538490694989.post-28123815640782644752007-06-20T10:19:00.000-05:002007-06-20T10:19:00.000-05:00Wow so much bs, I'm an electrical engineering majo...Wow so much bs, I'm an electrical engineering major, I went to France last spring break and was really impressed by their nuclear program, they now have the cleanest air in the indutralized world and the cheapest energy bill in europe.<BR/>They have so much excess energy they actually export to other major european cities.Now I'm taking a Nuclear engineering minor and the more I learn the more I'm convinced that this technology can play a big role in reducing global warming impact. if you want some actual facts go to www.nei.org.<BR/>Finally to answer that absurd claim about the dangers of nuclear power to the public here is a piece of a nei blog:<BR/><BR/>We've all heard the far-fetched claims of often-debunked pediatrician-turned-nuclear-expert Helen Caldicott before: Cancer rates are higher around nuclear facilities. But the questions she can never answer, even when asked face to face: If your claims are true, then why do medical studies, such as the one performed by Johns Hopkins University of over 30,000 nuclear workers, show no increase in cancer rates - even for the people who work closest with this radioactive material? Why aren't the thousands of nuclear workers who have been working in commercial nuclear power plants for the last 40 years not dropping like overripe grapefruits? And why do the people of France, where 80% of the power is provided by nuclear, have the *lowest* cancer and infant mortality rates and the longest life expectancy in all of Europe? Why is that?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17690226547337911238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8755992538490694989.post-46092818709392973392007-06-19T21:43:00.000-05:002007-06-19T21:43:00.000-05:00Robert:Believe if you read the article more closel...Robert:<BR/><BR/>Believe if you read the article more closely, never claimed the primary nuclear cycle contributor of CO2 into the atmosphere was/is transportation, though it is a part of it. One key example I cited was the enrichment process when the uranium hexofloride is converted into fuel. The Portsmouth Gaseous Diffusion plant in its 50 years of operation was supplied with power from 9 coal burning power plants. In the time of its operation, it consumed enough coal created electricity to supply all of Los Angeles county's needs for a period of 18,250 years.<BR/><BR/>Start factoring in the twin plant in Piketon, similiar plants in places like France and Germany, and you are talking a lot of CO2 into the environment in the name of nuclear energy...in short, nuclear is flat out lying when they claim nuclear power is a CO2 free producer of electricity.Royce Penstingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15097783614648808652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8755992538490694989.post-60870549351910188432007-06-19T21:36:00.000-05:002007-06-19T21:36:00.000-05:00Hi there.While I doubt I'll be able to convince yo...Hi there.<BR/><BR/>While I doubt I'll be able to convince you you're wrong about nuclear in general, when you're claiming unacceptable life cycle emissions on the basis of fuel transport you're really barking up the wrong tree. The major CO2 emissions (which are miniscule compared to fossil fuel) from nuclear power come from other parts of the process.<BR/><BR/>The thing you're not considering is the <EM>amount</EM> of material to be shipped from place to place in the fuel cycle.<BR/><BR/>To fuel a 1 gigawatt nuclear power station for one year takes, from memory, about a dozen truckloads of uranium (uranium is heavy, so mass is the limiting factor rather than volume). That nuclear power station generates electricity equivalent to 3000 trucks, travelling 500,000 miles each.<BR/><BR/>If you don't believe me, do the maths yourself. Get the data from Storm van Leeuwin and Smith if you like - even they agree that transport of uranium is a negligible factor in the life cycle emissions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8755992538490694989.post-88745312758883489502007-06-16T09:04:00.000-05:002007-06-16T09:04:00.000-05:00Great article. I enjoyed reading it. I think we ne...Great article. 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