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Europeans angry after Bush climate speech 'charade'
· US isolated as China and India refuse to back policy

· President claims he can lead world on emissions

Ewen MacAskill in Washington
The Guardian
Saturday September 29 2007

George Bush was castigated by European diplomats and found himself isolated yesterday after a special conference on climate change ended without any progress.

European ministers, diplomats and officials attending the Washington conference were scathing, particularly in private, over Mr Bush's failure once again to commit to binding action on climate change.

Although the US and Britain have been at odds over the environment since the early days of the Bush administration, the gap has never been as wide as yesterday.

Britain and almost all other European countries, including Germany and France, want mandatory targets for reducing greenhouse emissions. Mr Bush, while talking yesterday about a "new approach" and "a historic undertaking", remains totally opposed.

The conference, attended by more than 20 countries, including China, India, Britain, France and Germany, broke up with the US isolated, according to non-Americans attending. One of those present said even China and India, two of the biggest polluters, accepted that the voluntary approach proposed by the US was untenable and favoured binding measures, even though they disagreed with the Europeans over how this would be achieved.

A senior European diplomat attending the conference, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the meeting confirmed European suspicions that it had been intended by Mr Bush as a spoiler for a major UN conference on climate change in Bali in December.

"It was a total charade and has been exposed as a charade," the diplomat said. "I have never heard a more humiliating speech by a major leader. He [Mr Bush] was trying to present himself as a leader while showing no sign of leadership. It was a total failure."

John Ashton, Britain's special envoy on climate change, who attended the conference, said: "It is striking here how isolated the US has become on this issue. There is no support among the industrialised countries for the proposition that we should proceed on the basis of voluntary commitments.

"The most inspiring example of leadership this week was the speech on Monday at the UN by Arnold Schwarzenegger."

The governor of California is already putting into action in the state policies to reduce carbon emissions.

Other European governments expressed similar sentiments.

Although many of those attending had predicted the conference would break up without significant agreement, there had been hopes that Mr Bush, in search of a legacy, might produce a surprise. Instead, he stuck to his previous position, shunning mandatory caps in favour of clean coal, nuclear power and developing clean energy technology.

In contrast with the early years of his presidency when he expressed scepticism about climate change and whether humans were responsible, Mr Bush acknowledged yesterday "energy security and climate change are two of the great challenges of our time. The United States takes these challenges seriously."

He added: "Our guiding principle is clear: we must lead the world to produce fewer greenhouse gas emissions, and we must do it in a way that does not undermine economic growth or prevent nations from delivering greater prosperity."

Instead of mandatory caps, he emphasised a need to shift to clean coal, nuclear energy and new clean technology. He also proposed a new international technology fund but did not say how much the US would put into it. He reiterated a need for Americans to shift from oil to ethanol for their cars. "We're working to develop next-generation plug-in hybrids that will be able to travel nearly 40 miles without using a drop of gasoline. And your automobile doesn't have to look like a golf cart," he said. (Interesting that he claims America is still working on a technology Honda & Toyota already introduced back in 2000... and that plug-ins, would in fact, increase 40 miles to 100+ MPG... not to mention 100% pure EVs like the Tesla Motors roadster, which performs NO-MPG!!! RemyC.)

Elizabeth Bast, of Friends of the Earth, described the conference as a diversion. "We have heard it before. He put a huge emphasis on technology and does not speak to binding targets, and there is a great emphasis on coal and nuclear energy," she said.

Backstory

Many US states have embarked on their own programmes, with California leading the way. The governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, has signed a law requiring a 25% cut in greenhouse gas emissions by 2020, with penalties for industries that do not comply. California's three biggest utilities must produce at least 20% of their electricity using renewable sources by 2010.

Sydney, Australia is in APEC lock-down!

Sydney is in lock-down and hospitals are on standby for a terrorist attack as Australia prepares for the arrival of the world's most powerful leaders.

APEC groups Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, China, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Japan, South Korea, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Peru, Philippines, Russia, Singapore, Taiwan, Thailand, United States and Vietnam.

New Zealand is preparing to carve out a separate position on nuclear energy, and, as one of the few Apec countries to commit to emissions reductions under the Kyoto protocol, will push for an acknowledgment of Kyoto's binding targets in the leaders' final statement.

The agreement does not push for binding cuts in greenhouse gas emissions and its promotion of nuclear energy as a form of clean energy is controversial.

Green groups have accused Australian Prime Minister John Howard of using it in an attempt to derail the Kyoto protocol - an international agreement with binding targets for the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions - after 2012.

Join Benny Zable, Green Nuclear Butterfly, Rock The Reactors, Wetlands Activism Collective & other members of the newly formed FUSE USA coalition in solidarity & protest with the Australian people this Friday in Manhattan.

For detailed information on the rally, download this flyer.

(Compiled from numerous online news sources)

Why The Independent Safety Assessment For Indian Point Is a Dead Strategy

IPSEC, Riverkeeper, Clearwater and more politicians than you can shake a stick at seem to be putting far to much faith in and ISA (Independent Safety Assessment) closing down Indian Point. Both Hillary Clinton and Congressman John Hall got some press coverage announcing their introduction of bills calling for and ISA, yet both knew going in the bills were meaningless fluff, placebos to make the citizens around the reactors feel good, create the impression they were doing all they could on our behalf. In a blog chat yesterday, John Hall felt sorry that I was/am so pessimistic...lets not confuse pessimism with being brutally honest with myself, and the world around. The call for an ISA here, and else where in America is wasted time, energy and effort, and the sooner we accept this reality, the sooner we can move on to exploring other options.

In the Senate, New York has Clinton and Schumer supposedly representing our interests. Do your homework, and what you will find, is two savvy politicos trying to have their cake and eat it too. Neither Clinton or Schumer has ever called for, or supported the closure of the Indian Point reactors. They are trying to walk a political tight rope, in the hopes of serving two masters. Hillary introduced the same bill last year that she brought forward this year...have you ever asked yourselves why last year she never got so much as one co-signer on board that legislation? Not even Schumer. Introducing the bill gives her cover, nothing more, and she has no intentions of moving the bill forward towards passage. Schumer gives us even less, meekly stating the facility should be operated safely.

John Hall's bill is nothing but a rehash of Congressman Hinchey's bill from last year, a bone tossed to his hopefully rising star freshman John Hall, a means to give him some cover in a still Republican district that will be hotly contested in 2008. Go take a look at the bill, see how many co-sponsors are on it...it's a dog and pony show, a tool to get John Hall some face time in the local media. It's like that TV commercial with the phrase, "I'm working on it."

Even if the above scenario were not true, if Peter Pan showed up with some fairy dust, no bill asking for and ISA has a chance of being signed into law while George Bush is president. ZERO, ZIP, is not going to happen. To understand this, to grasp the why of Bush's push for the Nuclear 2010 Iniative, you have to understand how deep his ties to the nuclear industry really are, and to grasp that reality, you have to go back to his time as the Governor of Texas when the foundation stones were put in place.

Do a Google search for Valhi Inc., WCS and one man by the name of Simmons who with his friends [WCS president Ken Bigham, and WCS board member and lobbyist (and former U.S. Congressman) Kent Hance] donated some $170,000 to then Governor Bush and his Lt. Governor, Bob Bullock. The donations paid off, as George Bush cleared all obstacles for the siting of a Low Level Radioactive Waste Disposal Site owned by WCS, of which simmons had a huge ownership stake in. The fact that the site was to be forced upon a poor mixed (Mexican/Anglo) border town just 16 miles from the Rio Grand was not a problem for Bush...he'd put on a sombrerro, smirk, and all would be forgiven. Despite considerable public opposition, the Sierra Blanca dump was opened, and ethically challenged Bush and Simmons were both happy.

Bush and his handlers wanted him to be president. In helping Simmons, they had found a good supporter for George Bush's cause who had very deep pockets, the nuclear industry. Think about it. He could do a lot worse...GE, a nuclear titan owns a television network in NBC. Having a network in your corner in the build up for a presidential run can never hurt, and so the mold was cast to make George Bush the nuclear president. He was already more than cozy with two reactor owners in Texas Utilities and Houston Lighting and Power. In fact, two of his top staffers had left the governors office to lobby on behalf of the industry (Reggie Bashur and Cliff Johnson).

Bush's efforts and plan to woe the entire nuclear industry started paying big dividends almost immediately. Large donations started flowing in from various out of state nuclear titans such as Duke Power, Southern Company, and yes, Entergy Corporation, all of whom owned or operated nuclear power plants. These were three of the largest corporations in the South, giant companies whose major investors included some of the world's most powerful multinationals and global banks. Big enough friends, to get George Bush to the White House.

The plan worked, and now George Bush is repaying that loyalty. Who says there is no honor among thieves? This reality, this set of facts is why any legislative attempts to get and ISA are dead. The NRC knows this, the nuclear industry knows this, and George Bush not only knows it, but has assured it while he is president. It is reality, it is truth, and reactor host communities have to accept this and find new workable stategies if we are going to stop the continued wrong rubber stamping of license renewal applications for these troubled reactors. Call up Congressman John Hall's office, and if his office staff is honest and truthful, they will tell you that I speak the truth.

As You Look To The Future, Remember The Past

March 28th, 1979...the day hell visited the earth and proved that America's Nuclear Reactors are not safe, vital or secure. Those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

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2/26/2007
Nevada state officials have released a report concluding that the cost of building the Yucca Mountain nuclear waste repository “vastly exceeds” the cost of leaving radioactive waste at reactor sites. The report, commissioned by Nevada officials who oppose the Yucca project being built in their state, challenges the federal government’s cost estimate for the high-level radioactive waste dump and concludes that the repository would actually cost billions of dollars more than dry-cask storage at existing reactors.

Politics plays pivitol role in nuclear energy
2/12/2007

Politics will play a pivotoal role in nuclear energy in coming months, with federal lawmakers sparring over new U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission appointments, Republicans seeking to strip the National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) of its powers and presidential candidates weighing in on the merits of the proposed Yucca Mountain repository. The maneuvering comes as the federal government anticipates a rash of applications for reactor construction, as operators begin taking advantage of lucrative federal subsidies. And it comes as the federal government begins major investments in President Bush’s Global Nuclear Energy Partnership (GNEP).

Bush Budget Would Hike GNEP, Offers Less for Yucca Mountain
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Undaunted by the first Democrat-controlled Congress of his tenure, President Bush this month unveiled a 2008 budget proposal rife with ambitious goals for the nation’s nuclear power industry. Promoting energy sources that might wean the nation from its reliance on fossil fuels proves to be a key component of the president’s spending blueprint for fiscal 2008, which begins Oct. 1. Bush is asking Congress to approve a $24.3 billion budget for the U.S. Energy Department, including significant investments in new energy sources, scientific research, radioactive-waste cleanup and strengthening the nation’s nuclear weapons stockpile while promoting global non-proliferation.

GNEP Technologies: The Future or Pure Folly?
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An audioconference hosted last week by Capitol Press LLC spotlighted key proponents and detractors of President Bush’s Global Nuclear Energy Partnership (GNEP), with supporters arguing that now is the time to begin developing technology for the reprocessing of spent nuclear fuel, and foes countering that it will be too costly and time-consuming to attract private investors.

Nuclear, Entergy-The Shaw Skank Deception

Nuclear is in the news in a BIG WAY these days, and unless you live under a rock you are aware of the nuclear industry's dreams of a Nuclear Renaissance here in America. So, when you find a man (Jim Bernhard) who was the head of the Democratic Party in Louisiana, yet had donated $100,000 to George Bush's Inaugural Celebration, it grabs your attention. When that man's company, The Shaw Group, got the contract with the US Postal Service to clean up after the anthrax scare, and after Hurricane Katrina gets hundreds of millions, including $200 million in no bid contracts, I'm going to start Googling.

When my Googling exposes a man trying to buy his credentials as a real player in the nuclear industry, I start getting nervous. When said man makes deals with GE, Westinghouse, and forms a 50/50 partnership with Entergy (second largest nuclear player in America) I am thinking alarms, bells and whistles all going off at once. Then when further investigation shows me that Entergy's vice president is on the board of NEI (Nuclear Energy Institute-lobbying arm of the nuclear industry), I want Dan Rather or 60 Minutes on the phone. Couple all this with Shaw Group's government contracts with both the military (in Iraq) and the DOE, mix it with the fact that Jeb Bush as a member in good standing in CASEnergy (fully funded by NEI) and I'm thinking a brewing Enron on the horizon...it seems to be a more carefully orchestrated Hunt Brothers scenario when they tried to corner the silver market. However, in this case we have the Bayou Boys (Entergy and Shaw Group Inc.) wanting to own the lion's share of the nuclear renaissance, and have the ability to hold America hostage in the bargain.

George W. Bush: Nuclear President

The "renaissance" also now comes with what Mariotte says "may be the most ardently pro-nuclear power presidency in U.S. history." The Bush administrations stance on nuclear power is aggressive and minimizes the dangers of atomic technology.

As Bushs Secretary of Treasury Paul ONeill has told The Wall Street Journal, "If you set aside Three Mile Island and Chernobyl, the safety record of nuclear is really is good."

The administration struck a close working relationship with the nuclear industry well before taking office. Its energy "transition" advisors included:

1. Joseph Colvin, president of the Nuclear Energy Institute (NEI), the lead nuclear industry-funded trade group.

2. J. Bennett Johnston who as a senator was a leading pro-nuclear power figure in Congress and now runs a consulting firm that assists the nuclear industry.

3. Thomas Kuhn, president of the Edison Electric Institute and former head of the American Nuclear Energy Council, forerunner of the NEI, and a friend of Bush going back to their days at Yale.

4. Representatives of four U.S. utilities involved with nuclear power.

Two weeks after being sworn in, Bush set up a "National Energy Policy Development Group" and appointed Vice President Dick Cheney as its chairman. Its members included ONeill and Andrew Lundquist, who also coordinated the energy "transition" team was named executive director.

If you were looking to find a scandal of this magnitude, you'd imagine a firm getting hundreds of millions of dollars in government contracts all over the world after making generous donations to various politicians on both sides of the isle, including $100,000 towards George Bush's Inaugural celebration. We have that in spades. Imagine this company getting contacts with the US EPA, NASA, the Pentagon, Army Corp of Engineers, and even the US Postal Service to clean up after the Anthrax scare! No, we are not talking Haliburton here, but looking into this company you realize they are just as bad, if not worse. Where is a special federal prosecutor looking into the business dealings of the Shaw Group, and Jim Bernhard's joint collaboration (with Entergy) to own a major portion of the nuclear industry's dream about nuclear renaissance? Just how involved in this scam are the Bush brothers, and is it true that Entergy/Shaw sat in on the Energy Policy meetings with Dick Cheney?

To understand this story, one first has to look at the founder of the Shaw Group, examine its founder, try to figure out what makes Jim Bernhard tick. A read of the information let out to the press paints an image of a man that Pecos Bill, Paul Bunyan and even Pippi Longstockings would be envious of. A barrel chested man who worked his way up from digging trenches to become a titan of industry who now heads a fortune 500 company. After getting his bachelors degree from Louisiana State University, he bounced around working for various pipe fitters before striking off on his own with a couple of his college buddies. NOT EXACTLY.

First, it appears this man led a pampered childhood in many ways, the proverbial silver spoon stuck up his ego driven ass. His family owns Bernhard Mechanical Contractors which was started in 1919 by Jim's Grandfather, and the multimillion dollar firm is now run by Jim's brothers. It's easy to picture him as the good looking spoiled rich kid that had life handed to him on a platinum platter. If he saw something he wanted, he took it, and if that failed, Daddy probably went out and bought it for him...this to some degree is born out in the way Jim Bernhard has gone after acquisitions for his once small pipe fitting company, The Shaw Group.

When his inside government sources led him to believe there would be a Nuclear Renaissance, it appears he leveraged the Shaw Group to the hilt and went into the Federal Bankruptcy Court to buy himself and his company nuclear credentials that are not really his, and is using them to run around the world like a paper tiger making deals...problem is, can the building of nuclear reactors be trusted to a newbie in the field, and more importantly will his political cronies in Washington keep the government contracts flowing in long enough for his gamble with other people's money to pay off, or will his scheme backfire leaving America's small investors holding the bag in yet another Enron Pyramid scheme?

Jim Bernhard seems to have had an uncanny ability to land VERY LARGE government contracts from the start back in the mid eighties when the Shaw Group was first started. Once you take a look at the family business, Bernhard Mechanical Contracting, you see where the ability and CONNECTIONS come from. Bernhard Mechanical Contracting has been getting rich off of the taxpayers money for decades now.

A cursory look at records easily found online show for instance tens of millions of dollars flowing into the Bernhard till just from work done in their end of building prisons, and even some major work on a Federal Court House. Looking at the list of Bernhard projects, it's very obvious the family business has some very serious connections at all levels government, and perhaps had no problems in using them to win favor. In short, Jim Bernhard seems to have mentored with the best, grew up from chilhood learning and playing the game. So much for the tears in our eyes story about a young man working his way up from the bottom, but then if you listen to Donald Trump or Ted Turner, they did it all on their own as well.

This whole thing reminds me of the Iraq Press Scandal and the Lincoln Group back a few years ago. A young man from out of nowhere suddenly seems to know every one, and is winning Government Bids worth hundreds of millions, and forming new partnerships in an on time delivery basis. This blogger was not able to get the whole truth on the man (Christian Bailey)behind the Lincoln Group, and I still think he has ties into the CIA's black budget (covert)...it's the only way to explain the Englishman's convenient ties to George Bush and Condi Rice, and his incredible timing in placing himself and his company in Iraq, seemingly before our troops arrived. Hopefully, Jim Bernhard's footprints and timelines will give us more clues about his hidden truths, and the dark unbelly of The Shaw Group's uncanny abilities. Lets do some exploring of the man's timeline, and you the reader can make up your own mind.

1987-Jim Bernhard with two of his buddies start their business as the proverbial three musketeers, and the company gets it name from their FIRST Acquisition, the BF Shaw company out of South Carolina. Where did these three upstarts get the money to take over a large sized company like this. Further, the BF Shaw company's HORRID environmental record betrays portrayal of the Shaw Group as a Clean, Green environmentally concerned citizen. It has been suggested by some, that Shaw Connex is contributing to GREATLY increased cancer risks in Virginia...does Jim Bernhard care, and is so what is the Shaw Group doing to clean up its act?

1993-The Shaw Group gets busy, and the true sinister nature of Jim Bernhard's plan to corner the pipe fabricating industry starts to take shape with several more acquisitions.

Formed Shaw Nass Middle East, WLL, a partnership with Abdulla Ahmed Nass, a Bahrainian entity, to operate a fabrication facility in Bahrain.

To understand how to quietly BUY FAVOR, and to understand the Shaw Groups war profiteering under the George Bush Third Reich, you have to track the campaign contributions that give a company access, such as this example from a Shaw Nass Middle East Employee: (One has to wonder how many other Shaw Group employees were encouraged or coerced into making political contributions?)

Jack and Sims Gen Mgr / Reg. Nurse
Shaw-Nass Middle East Ltd. George W. Bush
$500 1624 Bomi Circle
Winter Park, FL 32792

Formed Shaw-Formiconi, CA (now known as Manufacturas Shaw South America, CA), a partnership with Formiconi CA to operate a fabrication facility in Venezuela.

Acquired Shaw Sunland Fabricators, Inc which put the company's employee base just below 2,000.

In 1996 and 1997 Shaw Group would have serious labor problems with Sunland and another company in the Baton Rouge area, both represented by local 198. Several Union members who did not want to be identified, but were around at the time freely accuss Jim Bernhard and the Shaw Group of Union busting, and one was convinced that Shaw Group A) out sources jobs, and B) may be using illegal workers (Hurricane Katrina was mentioned in this charge). We here at Green Nuclear Butterfly cannot verify this information, so like much of this artcle it is speculative and forward thinking, and falls under the heading of heresay.

Changed name to the Shaw Group Inc and went public with 3.125 million shares on the NASDAQ at $14.50.

Was the name change necessary for the stock offering, seeing as it was ALREADY OWED by someone else? Do your homework there JIMMY BOY! Anyone else a bit amazed here at this company's sky rocketing growth...could it have anything to do with Jim Bernhard's DADDY, AND THE DADDIES of his two original partners? It's not what you know, but who you know jumps to mind here.

In 1994 Shaw acquired the Fronek Company, Inc. and FCI Pipe Support Sales, Inc.

In a deal made in 2004, the Fronek assets were sold.

One important fact here. Jim Bernhard likes to paint himself and the Shaw Group out as good environmental stewards, in short, GREEN LEADERS. So why is it most of their holdings seem to be major polluters wherever they are located?

In 1996 they acquired Word Industries Fabricators, Naptech, Inc. and stock of Alloy Piping Products and Pipe Shields. Inc.

Sure are a lot of acquisitions going on...also, how is the other family business benefitting from all this elimination of the competition?

In 1997 Shaw acquired United Crafts, Inc., Merit Industrial Construction, Cojafex BV in Holland, Prospect Industries, plc, and Lancas, CA in Venezuela.

The most interesting acquisition in 1997 was Cojafex BV in Holland.

In 2000 Shaw joined with the Entergry Corporation to create Enetergy/Shaw LLC and acquired all assets of Stone and Webster, Inc..

Here with the Entergy Partnership, we see Shaw Groups attempt (through a lot of inside information?) begin to position itself to profit from the supposed Nuclear Renaissance in the same fashion it has profitted from the Iraq War, and Hurricane Katrina. Buying Stone and Webster out of bankrupcy in a predatory fashion gave the Shaw Group the beginnings of their PAPER CREDENTIALS.

In 2002 Shaw opened a facility in Cgina and acquired The IT Group, Inc., bringing the company's employee total to 18,000.

The IT Group purchase along with some ownersip secured in Westinghouse gave Jim Bernhard the credentials to do what he wanted...testify before a Senate Sub Committee and encourage them to embrace and fund the Nuclear Renaissance, while failing to mention his own (and his company's) biased conflict of interest in taking such a position.

In 2003 Shaw acquired stock of Envirogen, Inc. and MWR, Inc., assets of Badger/P&C and stock of Energy Delivery Services.

In 2004 Shaw created a joint venture, Shaw CENTCOM Services, LLC, with construction companies in Iraq, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia.

Interesting to note here, that almost as soon as Shaw inked the deal with Centcom, tens of millions in Defense Contracts came rushing through the door.

In 2005 Shaw was awarded contacts with FEMA and the Army Corps of Engineers to assist in Katrina related recoveries.

In addition to his contacts with George Bush, and the Seargent at Arms for the Senate, seems Jim Bernhard picked a good time to be friends with the governor of Louisana, though her flying to a bowl game in Shaw Groups PRIVATE JET played no part in the $100's of millions in new bid contracts Shaw Group received for Hurricane Katrina.

There is far more to write about when it comes to the Shaw Group, but one thing is for sure...If I owned stock in this company, I'd personally DUMP IT.

1. The public record show them to be MAJOR POLLUTERS OF THE WORST KIND.

2. THEY SEEM TO BE OPPORTUNIST using their Washington contacts to get rich at the taxpayers expense...be interesting to know if Jim Bernhard is friends with Tom DeLay or Dick Cunningham.

3. They are WAR PROFITEERS-they have RAKED IN over $3 BILLION in Defense Contracts over in Iraq, but ask them what they have done for the families of the 19 Shaw Group employees KILLED IN IRAQ for their corporate GREED.

4. Entergy owns to of the most dangerous Nuclear Reactors in the world that are leaking Strontium 90 and Tritium into the Hudson River...Shaw Group holds their maintenance contract, need I say more.

IF YOU ARE A GREEN INVESTOR, GREEN NUCLEAR BUTTERFLY SUGGESTS YOU PUT YOUR MONEY ELSEWHERE.